Transcript: Lt. Col. William Swenson (Ret.) and Command Sergeant Major Matthew Williams (Ret.) on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," May 24, 2026
Williams discussed military service, remembering those lost, and what Americans can learn from the Afghanistan war.

SOURCE CHECK
TAP FOR WHYCredibility rates Yahoo News, which republished this story. The other scores rate the article itself.
The interview is attributed to CBS News, an established national newsroom, and appears on Yahoo News. The page identifies the reporting organization, though the transcript format offers little visibility into broader reporting or corrections practices.
- Source type — An established national-news organization is identified as the reporting source.
- Author attribution — The byline names CBS News, and the page identifies the program and air date.
- Transparency — The interview is presented as a transcript, making the speakers and their statements identifiable.
The transcript provides direct remarks from two named interviewees and questions from the host. It offers substantial detail but is an interview rather than independently corroborated reporting, and it does not include contrasting perspectives on the war or its political objectives.
HOW WE SCORE ↗The host asks about both the value of service and the difficult questions surrounding the Afghanistan war. The interview features two guests with broadly similar perspectives and does not include critics or other perspectives on the war.
- Counterarguments presented — The guests acknowledge debate about the war and its objectives, but no opposing voices are interviewed.
- Source diversity — The transcript includes two interviewees and a host, but both guests share a military-service perspective.
- Opinion vs reporting — The interview format makes clear that the views on service and the war belong to the guests.
The transcript uses a conventional interview format and presents the guests' remarks without an apparent partisan frame. Its questions and wording do not signal a discernible political lean.
- Language tone — The wording is mostly neutral and the host asks open-ended questions.
- Framing — The interview addresses service, remembrance and the war without assigning partisan blame.
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A Face the Nation interview with Medal of Honor recipients Matt Williams and William Swenson covered military service, the Afghanistan war, Memorial Day and civic responsibility. Williams also discussed the lessons he hopes future generations take from the war.
Retired Command Sergeant Major Matt Williams and retired Lieutenant Colonel William Swenson discussed their military service and the meaning of the Medal of Honor. Both said the award represents the service and sacrifice of many people, including those whose stories were never told. Williams described military service as one way to serve a community and urged Americans to value that service.
Asked about the Afghanistan war, Swenson said service members did their jobs while political leaders must determine whether wars and their objectives are worth the sacrifices involved. Williams said Americans should discuss what went wrong or right and learn from the war, while expressing pride in his service. They also spoke about remembering those lost and continuing to tell their stories.
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